Truth and Bill Gates

UPDATED

CNet's interview with Bill Gates has any number of howlers, but a couple of them stand out.

He claims, for example, that Internet Explorer is the best browser. Insulting people's intelligence is par for the course for Gates, but this one is beyond laughable.

More serious, and ugly, is Gates' attack on people who want to restore a modicum of balance to today's grossly tilted system of intellectual property. He snidely dismisses "some new modern-day sort of communists who want to get rid of the incentive for musicians and moviemakers and software makers under various guises. They don't think that those incentives should exist."

The purity of this lie is remarkable. Even the most ardent of the free-software folks are not trying to remove the incentive to be creative. They believe in a different kind of incentive, just not the mercenary one that motivates Bill Gates.

The larger truth -- a principle for which Gates so frequently demonstrates such contempt -- is that the vast, vast majority of people who find fault with today's system still want to reward creators for their work, financially and otherwise. But we also want a system that balances the rights of creators with the rights and needs of the larger society.

Gates and his allies in the entertainment cartel want absolute control. For them, fair use and other societal benefits are what the intellectual property holders deem them to be. (And when it comes to patents, Gates and his company are becoming some of the worst bullies on the block, abusing a system that increasingly has little to do with actual innovation.)

Tonight I'm going to a party celebrating the second anniversary of Creative Commons, an organization that uses "private rights to create public goods: creative works set free for certain uses." That such an organization is needed so badly is testament to the outrageous imbalance in today's copyright regime.

Gates' defenders will claim that he was referring to a tiny group of people in his attack. But he's too smart, too media-savvy, not to have known what a broad brush he was wielding. His latest propaganda is shameful, but not a surprise.

UPDATE: BoingBoing has a couple of great postings pointing to "Creative Commies" art responding to Gates' crapola. See this and this.

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A commenter named Leo (see below) was puzzled about my comment that there are incentives to create other than mercenary motives. I responded:

There are many other incentives than financial ones. People volunteer their services all the time, not looking for payment (ever heard of the barn-raising or a volunteer fire department in a small town, for example?). People create art all the time without regard to payment. What's the business model for community theater? There isn't one in the standard sense. The purpose is to enrich a community's cultural life, and to give amateur actors a way to go on stage and fulfill something in their own lives.

The open-source software folks are similarly committed to producing something valuable without direct payment to themselves. Some are making a living off it by providing ancillary services. Others do it because they believe in the principle.

Grassroots journalism will rely in some ways on this concept. If the copyright cartel controls the distribution and the tools of creation -- has veto power over technology we need to make this happen -- then tomorrow's journalism will be partly stifled before it gets off the ground.

To follow the logic of people like Bill Gates, we should ban voluntarism because, after all, there are companies that would sell us the services. It's an absurd notion.

What's more, Bill Gates knows that markets fail. That why he's putting so much money into his philanthropy to help improve public health, especially in the developing world where markets have not worked. I greatly admire his commitment in that area.

Comments

[Simon Willison]

Thanks for that. I too found that part of the interview outrageous, but I hadn't managed to put words to my feelings.

[Dee Rambeau]

Thanks for being so eloquent while being so nasty and truthful. I love it. Best of luck with the new blog...I'll be keeping an eye on it.

[jerry]

Thomas Jefferson, communist.

[jerry]

Bill Gates, convicted, illegal, monopolist, would of course want us to believe that copyright reform is the act of communists. Of course, all a copyright was intended to be was a limited monopoly.

[Joe I.]

Funny thing is, the shot at open source software that Bill Gates uses is absolutly hysterical. I switched my consulting firm to Linux servers and was able to fire my fulltime IT guy, hire a Linux service provider for 20% the cost on an on-call basis. Saving licensing fees for Windows and the service contracts alone put over $500,000 back into the owners pockets, (me and a silent partner). This is to me a very capitalist situation. Just because that money isn't going to Microsoft doesn't mean there isn't a huge amount of money to be made by saving money!

[lightning]

Microsoft's pitch is that the costs of running a computerized operation are so high that a few dollars extra for software is a trivial expense. I can't think of any other field where you could get away with this.

[John Roberts]

Dan, next time you link to CNET News.com, I'd encourage you to send a TrackBack ping... they are supported (http://trackback.news.com/ for details).

Cheers, and good luck on the new venture.

John Roberts
CNET News.com product development

[Zo]

Surely everyone is aware by now that Gates is autistic. To be more precise, High Functioning Autistic, a.k.a. Aspergers. If this is not out in the open, it needs to be, for it is not a matter of shame, and certainly, a little truth about World’s Richest Man would serve us all.

Moreoever, most of the thinking of a Ballmer or Gates arises in pure and hard-wired selfism that may have evil results, alright, but it remains open to debate whether the thinking itself is evil - or good. It simply is, just Bill and Ballmer, pursuing their Projects with no thought given to others, to repercussions - because that's what Aspergers is.

As is a rather, er, flexible attitude toward waht we might call Obvious Fact. Again, the point is to promote one's project. And if said project is Internet Explorer, heaven help us? Well, that pretty much says it all.

[Ewan Grantham]

Giving the devil his due, and goodness knows when it comes to Gates I'm having to bite rather hard on the ol tongue, it's possible that he meant communist but not in the Soviet style communism we all think of.

As one of my professors pointed out, the purest form of Communism you would find in practice is the Israeli Kibbutz. Which is characterized by a community working together toward common goals even at the expense of what the individual members might sometimes want.

As such, could Gates have been trying to find a reasonable metaphor rather than trying to smear a movement? If you had to compare Open Source development to a political movement, which one would you use?

OK, that hurt my head. I'm going to go lie down now...

[666]

Gates is a Communist. Gates is a Fascist. What's the difference? Who cares. Gates is a Control Freak. He can't control Creative Commons, ergo he hates it & attacks it. Gates is a Communist. Gates is a Fascist. What's the difference? Who cares. Gates is a Control Freak. (repeat)

[Kirk House]

There is an old tounge in cheek argument that the kid that bashes car windows while his neighbors sleep is a good thing for the economy. He creates business for the window repair people, jobs are created, GDP goes up, everybody wins? Obviously that's not the case but that appears to be the logic Gates is using. In fact, he's been breaking Windows for nearly two decades.

[Paul]

Check out this post by robert scoble on Microsoft's own channel 9 same topic..
(gets there..)

http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=34712

[Clancy Hughes]

If our government gives us manipulated information, if the media captures information to dispense it only with advertising, if the industrial age monopolies alter reality through lobbying and if the Motion Picture Association and the Recording Industry suppresses art culture and information through over-extended copyright, then it looks like we are screwed.
html://hughesair.blogspot.com/2005/01/screwed

[paul]

Dan, you’re pandering to the Valley slackers, where is the journalism in this post?

I’m using Firefox now, but I like IE better.

Bush and his buddies are the worst bullies on the block.

People are free to make their own music and movies and distribute them on the Web, but if you want Brittany Spears you will have to pay all the people who made her desirable image.

[Len Bullard]

If you want to have a laugh, a good friend of mine, Dave Blalock, suggests you get the DVD of the Marx Brothers "A Day At the Races" and select the scene, Toosie Fruitsie. Compare Chico's strategy to the business models of some companies.

A lot of interests are playing Tootsie Fruitsie these days, and once it is played on you, as it is on Groucho, the tendancy is to take charge of the cart and do it too.

[Leo]

"They believe in a different kind of incentive, just not the mercenary one that motivates Bill Gates"

I don't understand what this different kind of incentive is. The whole point of the copyright and patent systems is to give people a legally protected financial incentive.

The comparison that Bill Gates makes of open source with communism is obvious, communists also thought that you could replace the purely financial incentive with something else (love for the state, the people, whatever). As they discovered, this doesn't really work over the long term. At the end of the day people are selfish and do things in their own interest.

As a software engineer, my time and the code I produce are the things that give me value. They're my way of earning a living. If I give that out freely, then, yes, maybe the world becomes a slightly better place, but someone else can use my work without recognizing my investment/contribution to it. As the 70 years in Russia showed, that's exactly what happends.

[Deb]

It's kind of an old theme when you think about it, Dan. It's the brilliant young man who takes on the "we've always done it this way" crowd, works hard and makes good, and then one day has to look around and realize that, in order to stay on top, he has now become one of the controlling dinosaurs he once thought to rise above. And all the while, the next whiz kids are plotting to do to him what he did to the previous bunch.

[Dan Gillmor]

Leo, there are many other incentives than financial ones. People volunteer their services all the time, not looking for payment (ever heard of the barn-raising or a volunteer fire department in a small town, for example?). People create art all the time without regard to payment. What's the business model for community theater? It's to enrich a community's cultural life, and to give amateur actors a way to go on stage and fulfill something in their own lives.

The open-source software folks are similarly committed to producing something valuable without direct payment to themselves. Some are making a living off it by providing ancillary services. Others do it because they believe in the principle.

To follow the logic of people like Bill Gates, we should ban voluntarism because, after all, there are companies that would sell us the services. It's an absurd notion.

What's more, Bill Gates knows that markets fail. That why he's putting so much money into his philanthropy to help improve public health, especially in the developing world where markets have not worked. I greatly admire his commitment in that area.

[paul]

What's interesting about your updates/response to Leo is that Bill Gates' mother Mary Gates was a wonderful volunteer [1][2] and she urged others to do likewise, both in her own family and at MSFT[3].

Taking your comments about volunteerism -- the fire department and community theater are great examples -- along with Gates' own comments about "the new communists" and the recent grunt from the Ayn Rand Institute about the evils of altruism manifested in government dollars going to tsunami relief, what a strange place we've come to. When one's motives for giving something away -- be it money or the sweat of your brow -- are questioned, we're in a mess.

1. http://www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=7188

2. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/pacificnw/2003/0126/cover.html

3. http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2002/05/20/focus1.html

[turgan]

for musicians who don't want to volunteer, rather make money (mind you 90% of musicians who try not to make commercial music are actually financially incentive) I think Bill Gates would be the saviour. I wish we could realize that digital rights management system can only do good for musicians.

Ipod's coolness seem to have brought a major delusion to everyone.

all others who share their music for free are musicians with a daily job.

[Brad Williams]

"To follow the logic of people like Bill Gates, we should ban voluntarism"

There's nothing about the defense of property rights that remotely suggests banning voluntary software projects. That anachronistic "capitalism = slavery" Marxist notion is what's a pure lie.

"we also want a system that balances the rights of creators with the rights and needs of the larger society"

Translation: you want to restrict individual rights for the benefit of "larger society". Since you're talking about restricting my rights too, I take this personally and I'd like to suggest you go shove it.

[tim]

Actually I think there is a libertarian argument that copyright is a form of government mandated monopoly. This destroys the ability of individuals to make private law contracts, between, say an artist and a consumer.

This is another one of those arguments where name calling and the right/left dichotomy breaks down.

[Michael Bernstein]

Brad, copyright itself restricts the rights of individuals by granting a state-enforced monopoly to the author. These monopolies were never intended to be perpetual, but time-limited. The current situation where existing copyrights are being extended again and again with no concommitant benefit to the public (supposedly represented by the state in this deal) is removing incentives to continue creating, and is also raising ever-higher barriers to new creativity.

The original intention behind copyright was to create a balanced deal, where creators got a limited monopoly in exchange for their work eventually entering the public domain. That balance is now *seriously* out of whack, and urgently needs to be redressed.

[Alan Kellogg]

Some people create in order to share. On this page you can read contributions and comments thereon from many different people. We like to talk about things, to tell people about stuff. Seeing somebody else claim our words, our story as their own is something we hate. So we take measures to protect our stories from theft. But getting money for our tales is not entirely necessary.

We're story tellers, it's how we pass on information, how we communicate. We could no more stop telling tales than we could stop breathing. Given a way to tell our stories we will use it. If no outlet for our creative efforts exists, we will create one. If we must break the law to tell our stories, then the law will be violated more often than a crack whore at a biker rally.

The problem is not getting people to tell their story.

[Mark Federman]

There are many types of slightly more complex economic transactions than the simplistic "I produce content and should get paid for that content" model. For example, many musicians make their music available for download in order to develop a fan base, and make their money from concerts and merchandising. Or, they make older music available for free, so that people will buy their newer music. (This works for writers, too.) Others realize the difference among various media types and make their works available both for download and physical purchase simultaneously (eg. Doctorow, Lessig). Companies make their software freely available, and make their money from all sorts of other anciliary services (eg. OpenFlows, among many others.)

I, personally, earn most of my income from speaking and lecturing. Almost all of my talks, lectures and course materials are available under a Creative Commons license, and can be freely downloaded and used. What I SELL is the performance and experience of my playshops - the portion of the content that is the downloadable written material, while substantial, is only a relatively small part of the experience, and the learning that occurs during the experience.

With every technological shift throughout history, there has been tremendous disruption to all aspects of society. The shift, and concomittent disruption, we are experiencing is nothing new; neither are the screams of those with entrenched interests.

The incentive of the limited monopoly (and those who currently have economic power often ignore the 'limited' part) is an artefact of a former era. We are in the challenging position of attempting to figure out what the "incentives" are for our era - or, using more direct language, how to make a living providing that which people find of sufficient value to pay for.

[Brett Glass]

You write: Even the most ardent of the free-software folks are not trying to remove the incentive to be creative.

Not true, Dan. Richard Stallman -- the first and most rabid of this group -- specifically said that his purpose was to eliminate good paying jobs for programmers. Read his essay "The GNU Manifesto." His creation of the GPL -- and the propaganda surrounding it -- was a work of spite, alas.

[Dan Gillmor]

Brett, I think you're reading selectively from Stallman's writing. I'd suggest folks read it themselves to make up their own minds on this.

But even if he was saying what you claim (and, again, I don't think you're fairly characterizing what he wrote), it's not true that he's removing the incentive to be creative. At most, he'd be trying to remove just one kind of incentive. I think we can agree that there are other kinds.

[Mark Rosenthal]

It would be nice if Brett Glass actually read what Stallman wrote, rather than reporting what he'd like us to believe Stallman wrote. "The GNU Manifesto" is available for all to read at http://www.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.html.

The relevant part is the section entitled "Won't programmers starve?" Stallman writes:

"I could answer that nobody is forced to be a programmer. ... But that is the wrong answer because it accepts the questioner's implicit assumption: that without ownership of software, programmers cannot possibly be paid a cent. Supposedly it is all or nothing.

The real reason programmers will not starve is that it will still be possible for them to get paid for programming; just not paid as much as now. ...

Probably programming will not be as lucrative on the new basis as it is now. But that is not an argument against the change. It is not considered an injustice that sales clerks make the salaries that they now do. If programmers made the same, that would not be an injustice either. (IN PRACTICE THEY WOULD STILL MAKE CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN THAT. - (emphasis added))"

Brett is being astoundingly disingenuous, trying to blame the current dearth of decent software development jobs on the GPL, when Gates, Ellison, McNealy - champions of proprietary software, all - are all doing their level best to send as many decent-paying jobs overseas as they possbily can.

[c]

Understandi your feelings about Bill.

[bonehead]

avarice is the natural tendency of a free society and is politically expedient.fight it at your peril.....economic or otherwise.

[Fredric Alan Maxwell]

Dan, Gates calling something communist is the exact-same language Steve Ballmer used to describe Linux a few years ago, prompting MSFT's Chinese manager to quit. As far as Gates's claim about IE being the best, can there be any doubt that the Microsoft We-are-the-best-and-the-most-honest-software-company-on-the-planet disconnect continues?

[Sue C Kim]

I agree with your opnion. With bill gates theory, the envionment of society is cold, harsh and mistrust.

Well I can't express myself but I need somekind support.

I am one of his totured souls. I lost many jobs
because of him. With my name and social security
number I can not use any fax machines.

I would like to meet all the people who are
vitimized by him. I love to make somekind foundation for that.

[Brett Glass]

Stallman and Microsoft are two peas in a pod, actually. Both are unethical. Both want to destroy others' livelihoods by giving away what they make for a living for free.